Call ups

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

Any traction for limiting the number of times you can bring up/send down a minor leaguer? How about a waived player? Seems like an area that someone could take advantage of. I don't want to see a situation where someone stashes pitchers there and constantly calls them up/down for starts.

I would be in favor of either limiting the number of times a player can be recalled in a year (3 seems like a fair number) or restricting the frequency of call ups (if you call someone up or send them down, you can't move them again for 2 weeks.)

Any thoughts?

[Deleted]

Since i'm not doing the transactions, I like to take advantage of the situation. It's kind of like having a sixth-seventh-eighth starter on hand at all times.

After thinking about this, Pitts does have a point. I would be in favor of 3 times each.

[torontobluejays]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. There is no problem here. Why have the waiver positions if you get penalized for using it.

[Deleted]

I don't really care one way or the other. Just don't change rules in the middle of the year.

I personally have 2 guys on waivers that I recalled due to players being placed on the disabled list - I think that should be taken into account.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

I'd never change the rules mid-season unless the league was falling apart.

2 reasons for the suggestion (and I'll certainly drop it if it's not popular.)

1. I think it is an unfair advantage if someone were to use the waiver spots for starting pitchers and then bring them up on days they start. It's essentially giving them an extra 3 active roster spots. Granted, nobody has done this yet. But someone COULD. And once someone does it, it would be too late to change the rule for that season. (See above...I am loathe to change rules mid season).

2. It could be a pain in the arse for whoever has to manage the rosters. (selfish incentive, but I'm being honest.) I'm not complaining. Just a suggestion I'm throwing out there.

My preference would be not to limit the number of times but to limit how quickly you could send a guy back up/down. I think keeping him for 2 weeks is fair.

But again, I'm not trying to convince anyone. Just throwing it out there. I will say no more.

[Deleted]

iirc, someone did just that a handful of times last year.
what about the situation that everyone has done....demote a minor, acquire a player and stick him immed on the DL, then promote the same minor back to the major roster.

[torontobluejays]

I don't see the problem with someone using the waiver system to store a player and bring them up and down. This also applies to the use of rookies. If someone is lucky enough to have that many quality pitchers, let him use them. They can still not exceed the max innings and if they are rotating 6-8 starting pitchers, they will blow by the max innings alot quicker than anyone else. I can appreciate the pain in the arse that it is for the person who manages the rosters, but since it is Pittsburgh, I have less sympathy.

[Deleted]

Pitts still has a good point. The WW is to protect players who are having a bad year or are injuried but still want to protect NOT to be used as extra roster spots. I've seen teams call up a pitcher for a start and then send back to the WW, this is not the intent.

I vote to limit the transactions. 3 seems very reasonable.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Phillies. Yahoo allows us to have more roster spots. If the waivers was intended to be extra active players, it would make life much simpler for everyone if we just got rid of waivers and increased the yahoo rosters by 3.

But that's not the point of waivers.

Toronto alluded to 'rookies' above (minor leaguers) and how we allow them to move freely. MLB has a rule that if you send a player down, you cannot recall him for 10 days. I would be in favor of such a rule for both minor league players and waiver players.

Just wanted to put that out there. Now I really will step behind the curtain.

[rangers]

I support the 10 day rule.

[Deleted]

I'm liking the idea of 3 roster spots. This way you can still stash your players who are having bad years or sent down and it's less transaction for the admin. This doesn't affect minor leaguers does it? We can still stash them in the minors until they qualify to come up, right?

[Deleted]

I don't mind players being called up/sent down a lot. However, I agree about a 10 day rule. Hell, I'd bump it up to 15-20 days (unless injury dictates the need to recall someone).