cap penalty

[Minnesota Twins]

The commish already does way too much just to keep the league running smoothly, he shouldn't have to play watchdog so closely.
I vote from now on (Balt gets a warning because the rule wasnt in place) that an overrun on cap results in a fine of the amount of the overrun. This was if the oversight was small so is the fine.

OR we could have a base fine like a million for first offense, 2 mill for the second, ect.

I have been flirting with the cap all the time and spend lots of time when proposing deals making sure the number work. If you are going to go up against the ceiling you should have to watch closely.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

maybe you lose a draft pick?

[Admin]

i tend to agree that a penalty has to be agreed upon and then enforced.
my 1st responsibility is to make sure the transaction is transferred to yahoo rosters for the following days play. then, if i have time, go to the spreadsheet and update there. but as we've seen today, sometimes i cant access the spreadsheet so its not updated immediately after transactions. but now it has to be because so many teams are close to the cap limit. both transactions and salary have to be correct. cant let a trade thru and later find out its over salary and should have been voided. by then the stats may have accumulated in error. its the old chicken or the egg question.
this time it was easy, one player. but with multiple players changing teams thats a lot of time spent calc'ing if i cant get on the spreadsheet.
its not the s'sheets fault tho. its my dial-up connection that i'm forced to use right now. nevertheless it is a problem.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

naw...spreadsheet performance is crap too. its too huge by necessity. when i redo the spreadsheet for next year, ill split it into AL and NL. maybe having 2 sheets will help performance.

[tfence]

but about the penalty. How can you pay 2 million if you are already over the cap? are we assuming the fine be assessed for the next year?

[Minnesota Twins]

good point. Maybe we fine them the amount of the overage for next season. and clip a draft pick. and don't allow whatever move.

I also think some portion of the penalty has to be this year too or someone could go for it this year and next year be crap and just take the penalty

[Deleted]

The whole salary cap issue was an oversight on my part. Instead of looking at this year's salary that I had available, I looked at next years. I am trying to lower my current salary as we speak but if fines must be necessary. I am all for them. I don't think that losing a draft pick is quite fair but a fine in the amount of the over-cap assessed to the following season seems fair.

[Admin]

how about...
1) the trade stands even if there is a cap problem. even if i cant get to the s'sheet to discover a problem, the non-offending team shouldnt be penalized by overturning the trade.
2) the penalty is for the amount in question, applied to the next years salary cap.
3) i can see only 2 remedies.
a) offending team needs to drop a player to comply.
b) other team kicks-in the amount(as Pitt did earlier). this team then receives the offending teams lowest/worst? draft pick as compensation.
[edit] c) as minn states...all transactions by offending team will be suspended until the cap problem is resolved.

also i agree with minn that some sort of penalty be applied to the current year. is dropping a player or losing a draft pick enough? i'm at a loss as to anything else.
agree? add anything?

[torontobluejays]

How about these potential harsh penalties for in season penalties:

a) reduction in innings available to team pitching;
b) reduction in games available to team hitting;
c) point reductions for each violation.

I know these are very harsh penalties, but it will make us owners responsible to checking the numbers.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

yahoo doesnt allow the kinds of changes toronto suggests.

keep it simple. the offender loses his worst draft pick AND is fined the overage for next season.

[tfence]

What if we did something like the real MLB? This might sound crazy, but it would be very realistic...
For every dollar you go over the cap in a certain year, the next year you have to pay something like 4 times that much.
So if you go over the cap by $500,000 this year, next year you would have 2 million in cap penalties assessed to your payroll

It's pretty crazy lol.