I suggest

[Detroit]

The league put some sort of value cap on acquiring prospects and picks.

If I'm out of it next year, who's to say I don't throw around 10M or more in salary to acquire a prospect or pick? Doesn't this upset what little competition there is in the league or at least unfairly upset the competitive balance we do have?

Something like putting a dollar value cap on picks (prorating them?) and just a hard limit on any 1 minor league player?

[Minnesota Twins]

Robot voice 🤖 "discourage trading...does not compute"

[[e-mail]]

I'm not for this at all.

And you can't have it both ways. I thought my trade was such where I was hurting myself, the guy who is out of it.

Now you are proposing a system that hurts a said 'out-of-contention' player from improving himself by utilizing future cash?

I'm confused, now, big guy. Was my trade bad or good for me? What are you trying to fix?

[[e-mail]]

Let the free market fix mistakes, Tigers. You can't adjudicate stupidity, if indeed I'm engaged in stupidity by my actions. The market and my results will show me any potential error in my ways.

If I am destroying myself as a team. Then I will finish out of contention, and have no recourse to fix my wrongs for a long time. I will have in essence "learned my lesson", and adjust my strategy.

If another team is receiving cash that you feel is creating an imbalance, they still have to make the correct purchase(s), deal with the daily realities that come with fantasy baseball, etc etc. There are so many moving parts that can still break along the way. All of this is a gamble. No one has a crystal ball that money traded today will potentially hurt all of us tomorrow. Attaching rules to mitigate some kind of consternation you might be feeling today is not in the league's best interest.

Ruling has already been made about cash vs free agent signings. We have yet to see the fruits of that ruling. Why don't we wait and see if that mitigates reckless 1 yr bidding first before we do any potential further mitigating.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

Jul 25, 2017 21:00:30 GMT -5 Minnesota Twins said:

Robot voice 🤖 "discourage trading...does not compute"

At some point too much trading is not a good thing. I don't advocate making it difficult to trade, but you've got players go back and forth between the same 2 teams multiple times in a week. That kind of trade inflation might even make Toronto think it's time to raise the interest rates on the trading market.

[Detroit]

There is NO rule in place to prevent 1 year bidding. It does not exist, hence it will continue.

I am trying to prevent obsurdity. Giving 10M for a 4th rd draft pick, even if it's Mike Trout just seems NUTZ. Nobody knows Trout's potential until he showed up in the bigs and repeated his performance. Spending 1/9th of your total yearly salary on a player that might not even make the bigs seems like we should help prevent a team from making a drunken, irrational decision. Not pointing, I'm just saying. If I were contemplating this offer, I would want someone to come talk sense into me. There are plenty of FA 2B in 2018 that could earn less than 10M.

And I'm not sure my idea works, or even a form of it working. I was just trying to get opinions and ideas and promote creative and rational thinking.

[ex-Pittsburgh Pirates]

I think limits on cash transactions (or cap+ limits) might be a good idea. I haven't seen a proposal I think is a slam dunk.

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1/9th of my 2018 salary only, Detroit. C'mon man. I'm still sitting on 61 million for the year. If he does make it to the bigs and does everything I dream of, his value is even more realized in 2019 and beyond.

Your "proposal" was put in the context of stopping bottom tiered teams from essentially improving themselves asymmetrically. Is this the "Stop bottom tiered teams from assymetric improvements proposal" or the "Stop drunkin sailors from ruining the league" proposal? Both? Sounds to me like the "Stop fun from happening b/c I personally don't engage in those types of trades" proposal. And excuse me for trying to acquire a second baseman that you dont happen to really care about. I'm supposed to run out an bid 7-8 million on Gary Dozier and be happy with my .250 batting average.

What caps are you proposing btw? Would it be 5 million? 10 Million? 500K? At what point do too many rules just make this league flat out suck?

[Detroit]

If rules getting in your way of flamboyantly throwing your money around are what you are referring to, then I guess that's it Brew. You know me....screw the Brewers at all costs.

My proposal is something like this. Assign a specific dollar value for every pick in every draft. Just like MLB does. 1st rd, 1st pick can get a return of IDK, 10M, +/- 1M. Every pick after goes down in value until the last pick. So just trading salary for picks becomes a "slot value" thing. If I'm not mistaken, Willie Calhoun was a 4th rd pick originally, so his "slot value" could not exceed a specific dollar value, unless other things were returned in the deal to obtain "fair market value".

Some people in this league don't value their draft picks and they trade them all away. That's fine, but something like this could level the playing field and not get under value, or WAY over value for their respective picks. Some people won't like this idea because they believe they must "win" the trade in order to make it. But, something like this could prevent an instance like today where KC got a kings ransom and a queens ransom for an unproven commodity. Hitting the lottery in Cashmans should be signing a player who has a breakout season, or drafting a 5 tool player that figures it out in the bigs, not thru trades of today's caliber.

maybe it's a pipe dream, but I don't think this alters the nature of the league that much and might prevent future similar events.

[Detroit]

And personally, I don't think any team should be able to trade more than 20-25% of their 90M season salary in any year. That's thru paying contracts of players thru trade or sending lump sum cash in a trade.

The real NYY, the richest team in baseball doesn't give 20% of their revenues to random teams every year. They pay luxury tax if they are over the cap, but that gets divided throughout all teams in baseball.

[[e-mail]]

Lookie, Detroit.

Who is tracking that? Is this an added column on the MiLBs page with these dollar values? I'm not saying it is a terrible idea. I can think about it is all I promise for this team.

Cam Bedrosian. I come at you with say Dellin Betances and 10 million in next year cash (b/c your trading block states you're all fun n games for 'future cash'). And somehow you like this deal, but you can't make it b/c he is capped. You're ok with this?

[Detroit]

So buying Kershaw for 30M and trading him away + all of his salary wouldn't fly. This would prevent teams who just "went for it" and know they are gonna have a bad season, so they spend every red cent they have on Clayton Kershaw with the only intention but to sell him and his 40M salary to the highest bidder to retool their team quicker. This drives the price of ALL FAs way up because this has been common practice.

Limit the $ every team can trade away and the top 10 FAs every year will stop going for 1 year contracts.

[Detroit]

And YOU NEVER OFFERED ME 10M IN 2018 CASH.

Never.

[Detroit]

Btw, the salary you give to other teams is ALREADY tracked on the spreadsheets. You just have to look...

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Dude, you seem like you are all over the map. You go from assigning money to draft picks to just flat out capping cash transfers. Maybe you are saying the same thing and Im not grasping you.

The Kershaw-scenario has been addressed by Pitts already. We just havn't seen its effects yet, since his rule effect took place after free agency.